IN THIS EPISODE…

We’re staring into the abyss of 1984’s The Terminator to see what will gaze back. Whether you are in the camp that believes the original James Cameron-helmed, The Terminator, is a horror movie or not - we attempt our best to present the argument for why it could be. Joining us for our 50th-episode celebration is none other than Andrew Carey from the metalcore band, Evergreen Terrace. Find out what Andrew had to say about the mental health behind touring, creating music, the legacy of T-800 and so much more. The Terminator is now streaming on these platforms: https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/the-terminator.

If you or someone you know is reading this right now and struggling with suicide, depression, addiction, or self-harm - please reach out. Comment, message, or tweet at us. Go to victimsandvillains.net/hope for more resources. Call the suicide lifeline at 988. Text "HELP" to 741-741. There is hope & you DO have so much value and worth!

Abyss Gazing is a production of Victims and Villains and is written by Josh “Captain Nostalgia” Burkey (& produced by) and Mark Moore. Music by Kevin MacLeod & Purple Planet (https://bit.ly/ppcoms)/ You can now support us on Patreon. Help us get mental health resources into schools and get exclusive content at the same time. Click here (http://bit.ly/vavpatreon) to support us today!